Identification questions

Hello everyone,

I am fairly new to the group and to saltwater tanks and I'm looking for some help.

I have a couple of things in my tank that have arrive on their own and I don't know what they are.

1) They look like a brown seeds and when the water is agitated by the movement of the fish at feeding time this seems to upset them and them seem to send out strings that look like cobwebs.

2) These look like little shiny green balls. There is one cluster of tiny one and one bigger one of by itself. The bigger one is about the size of a good sized pea and perfectly round.

I have also lost a couple of my corals to brown slime. Any suggestions here? All the others in the tank are happy and flourishing.

I have a 29 gallon biocube and I change 5 gallons of water every weekend. I do check to water regularly and it seems to test okay.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Louise T. (a different Louise)

Identification questions

Bubble corals and hammer corals are very hardy. They have survived through urchant attacks, high nitrates and high salinity in my tank. However, the hammer coral was very small when I first got it and now it is larger than my hand. It grow twice it size (if not more) in about a year. The bubble coral was the fav target of my spiny urchan (which i ended up returning because it was a pest) it ended up almost dieing on me. It took about 5months to nurse it back to health. Mushroom corals seem to be the easiest of all the corals to maintain.

--- In Saltwater_Fish_and_Reef_Aquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Louise Tennant" wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am fairly new to the group and to saltwater tanks and I'm looking for some help.
>
> I have a couple of things in my tank that have arrive on their own and I don't know what they are.
>
> 1) They look like a brown seeds and when the water is agitated by the movement of the fish at feeding time this seems to upset them and them seem to send out strings that look like cobwebs.
>
> 2) These look like little shiny green balls. There is one cluster of tiny one and one bigger one of by itself. The bigger one is about the size of a good sized pea and perfectly round.
>
> I have also lost a couple of my corals to brown slime. Any suggestions here? All the others in the tank are happy and flourishing.
>
> I have a 29 gallon biocube and I change 5 gallons of water every weekend. I do check to water regularly and it seems to test okay.
>
> Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Louise T. (a different Louise)
>

Identification questions

The first sounds kinda like vermited snails except they don't look like seeds. They typically look kinda like a small swirled shell attached to rock (or what ever) with a capped opening. Look very carefully at where the webs are coming from! Vermited snails do cast out a long stringy mucus web to catch their food. What you are seeing isn't irritation, it's feeding! I have quite a few in my tank. Their webs can be ugly at times, but they don't typically hurt anything. I've read that they can irritate some corals, but I have SPS and softies by my vermiteds and they don't bug them a bit.

The second sounds like green bubble algae, irritating invasive stuff. I got some on a frag. Thought I'd cleaned it all off but didn't and now it's spreading all over my tank. Urgh! I'm going to get some emerald crabs, they supposedly eat the stuff. I also carefully (so as not to rupture them) pull off the larger bubbles and remove them when ever I can. The bubbles contain spores, when you pop them you release spores and spread them. Best to try to take steps to remove them if you can. If they grow too dense they'll prevent some corals from being able to open (various polyps).

Brown slime? What kind of corals did you loose? Some are specifically afflicted by a brown slime disease... can't remember if it's acans or duncans (thinking the later)... something like that! I don't have either and haven't dealt with it but I've heard it can be a challenge to heal a colony once it's infected. If you have any other of the same type coral that is healthy you may want to remove it from your tank and quarantine it until you are sure it's healthy and that your tank is once again healthy and rid of the slime.

Liz

----- Original Message -----
From: Louise Tennant
To: Saltwater_Fish_and_Reef_Aquariums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:22 PM
Subject: [S&F and Reef Aquariums] Identification questions

Hello everyone,

I am fairly new to the group and to saltwater tanks and I'm looking for some help.

I have a couple of things in my tank that have arrive on their own and I don't know what they are.

1) They look like a brown seeds and when the water is agitated by the movement of the fish at feeding time this seems to upset them and them seem to send out strings that look like cobwebs.

2) These look like little shiny green balls. There is one cluster of tiny one and one bigger one of by itself. The bigger one is about the size of a good sized pea and perfectly round.

I have also lost a couple of my corals to brown slime. Any suggestions here? All the others in the tank are happy and flourishing.

I have a 29 gallon biocube and I change 5 gallons of water every weekend. I do check to water regularly and it seems to test okay.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Louise T. (a different Louise)

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Identification questions

Hi Liz,

And thank you for the info. I think you are right about the snails. There are only a couple at this point.

I'm not sure what to do about the green bubble algae. One of the spheres in down in the rock where if I tried to remove it I would surely pop it.

The coral I lost to brown slime was a daisy coral. This has happened before with another type of coral. I wish I know what I was doing wrong so that I don't lose these beautiful pieces.

Can you recommend some types that are particularly hardy in a small tank?

If you reply could you please use the long form for the ithings you decribe. I'm findly that many of the experienced folks on the list use short forms and I don't know what they mean.

Thank you again,

Louise
----- Original Message -----
From: Liz
To: Saltwater_Fish_and_Reef_Aquariums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [S&F and Reef Aquariums] Identification questions

The first sounds kinda like vermited snails except they don't look like seeds. They typically look kinda like a small swirled shell attached to rock (or what ever) with a capped opening. Look very carefully at where the webs are coming from! Vermited snails do cast out a long stringy mucus web to catch their food. What you are seeing isn't irritation, it's feeding! I have quite a few in my tank. Their webs can be ugly at times, but they don't typically hurt anything. I've read that they can irritate some corals, but I have SPS and softies by my vermiteds and they don't bug them a bit.

The second sounds like green bubble algae, irritating invasive stuff. I got some on a frag. Thought I'd cleaned it all off but didn't and now it's spreading all over my tank. Urgh! I'm going to get some emerald crabs, they supposedly eat the stuff. I also carefully (so as not to rupture them) pull off the larger bubbles and remove them when ever I can. The bubbles contain spores, when you pop them you release spores and spread them. Best to try to take steps to remove them if you can. If they grow too dense they'll prevent some corals from being able to open (various polyps).

Brown slime? What kind of corals did you loose? Some are specifically afflicted by a brown slime disease... can't remember if it's acans or duncans (thinking the later)... something like that! I don't have either and haven't dealt with it but I've heard it can be a challenge to heal a colony once it's infected. If you have any other of the same type coral that is healthy you may want to remove it from your tank and quarantine it until you are sure it's healthy and that your tank is once again healthy and rid of the slime.

Liz

----- Original Message -----
From: Louise Tennant
To: Saltwater_Fish_and_Reef_Aquariums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:22 PM
Subject: [S&F and Reef Aquariums] Identification questions

Hello everyone,

I am fairly new to the group and to saltwater tanks and I'm looking for some help.

I have a couple of things in my tank that have arrive on their own and I don't know what they are.

1) They look like a brown seeds and when the water is agitated by the movement of the fish at feeding time this seems to upset them and them seem to send out strings that look like cobwebs.

2) These look like little shiny green balls. There is one cluster of tiny one and one bigger one of by itself. The bigger one is about the size of a good sized pea and perfectly round.

I have also lost a couple of my corals to brown slime. Any suggestions here? All the others in the tank are happy and flourishing.

I have a 29 gallon biocube and I change 5 gallons of water every weekend. I do check to water regularly and it seems to test okay.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Louise T. (a different Louise)

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Identification questions

Hmm,

I'm not exactly sure what a daisy coral is. Was it a polyp? I hope someone else chimes in about the slime.

I know from experience that algae grows to nuisance levels because of excess nutrients. If you reduce nutrient levels (primarily nitrate and phosphate) most algae problems will eventually resolve. Sometimes if water parameters are bad the corals get stressed and produce slime themselves, then die if the situation isn't improved. Do you test your water for nitrate and phosphate? You also need to test for KH, PH, calcium and of course salinity. If any of your basic parameters get too far outside the norm inverts will be the first to suffer (corals, and standard clean up crew members liks snails, stars, crabs, etc). Of the creatures we keep, the fish are generally the hardiest and can take the most abuse.

As for hardy corals, most 'softies' are pretty tough. I have all of the following and can personally vouch for them being pretty fail safe: pulsing pom-pom xenia, anthelia (can grow very fast once established!), zoas, palys, green star polyps, encrusting gorgonian (looks a lot like GSPs but is a different color, nice to cover rocks), toad stool (and leathers in general), kenya tree, neon green palau nepthea, ricordea, yumas, and mushrooms (hairy and regular, lots of fun colors and patterns with mushrooms and they are tough little buggers).

I'd avoid LPS and SPS corals for a little while until your water parameters are stable and you are having good success with softies. There are easy to keep LPS and SPS corals, but they tend to be a little pickier about water quality.

Emerald crabs are supposed to eat bubble algae. It's kinda hit or miss with them though. I'm getting a couple in hopes they'll eat what is in my tank.

Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: Louise Tennant
To: Saltwater_Fish_and_Reef_Aquariums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [S&F and Reef Aquariums] Identification questions

Hi Liz,

And thank you for the info. I think you are right about the snails. There are only a couple at this point.

I'm not sure what to do about the green bubble algae. One of the spheres in down in the rock where if I tried to remove it I would surely pop it.

The coral I lost to brown slime was a daisy coral. This has happened before with another type of coral. I wish I know what I was doing wrong so that I don't lose these beautiful pieces.

Can you recommend some types that are particularly hardy in a small tank?

If you reply could you please use the long form for the ithings you decribe. I'm findly that many of the experienced folks on the list use short forms and I don't know what they mean.

Thank you again,

Louise
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